Subject	To be fair...
Posted by	dpjax on July 13, 2005 at 10:04 PM
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In Reply To	Heh, I suspected as much. >>>>> posted by Ash's Z on July 13, 2005 at 03:00 PM
Message	there is no evidence here that Z1/Russell did this. I will point out that any of us here could have done it. I can register a name using any address in a few minutes and have it forward their site. As for whats going on here, I am currently betting on...'someone wants to have fun with the forum and wants to piss off both parthes' (Ash & Z1). Why would Z1 do this? Obviously everyone is going to notice when it all blows up (as its done). For those that don't know, the domain was moved from a bogus name which Ash disputed with ICANN, then to private registration with no name/address (using the current provider) and now its got Z1's info and forwarded to their website. I am not going to be a cheerleader for either side, but I think this is a prank. Either way, I'd like to see Ash get his domain back whoever has it.
Follow Ups	Heh, I suspected as much. >>>>> - Ash's Z 15:00:16 07/13/05 Now that's dirty... (n/m) - sfarrah 15:03:31 07/13/05 dirty is flooding their email inbox to shut the website down (n/m) - Slowninja(GT28RS Inconel Z) 18:46:30 07/13/05 yup time to use the Z1 email addresses - TARGETZ 19:26:51 07/13/05 Everyone should - TARGETZ 19:30:08 07/13/05 another example of how great Z1 is - atl300zxtt 15:04:33 07/13/05 Same happened me, been meaning to address it with Russell - RAGTPZ(ragtpz.com) 15:09:25 07/13/05 every pic i have ever taken and posted on here from an event - atl300zxtt 15:11:22 07/13/05 Who do you think did the site while Ash worked there? (n/m) - Kenny 15:49:44 07/13/05 *light bulb* (n/m) - Spongerider :) 15:59:14 07/13/05 Well, I still have a stash of papers here with Russell's - Ash's Z 16:15:26 07/13/05 . (n/m) - Kenny 16:56:49 07/13/05 and all these ppl get what they desirve. WHY? - YOU KILLED KENNY!!! 20:05:28 07/13/05 Ouch. (n/m) - Fuzznutz 15:06:16 07/13/05 thats messed up (n/m) - spyhunter(nj) 15:10:02 07/13/05 WOW - BradZ (FL) 15:10:49 07/13/05 I've defended Z1 in the past... - Drifter757_ 15:10:49 07/13/05 Wow, no copyright laws? No Patent, No right reserved? :( (n/m) - ZBlacktt 15:10:56 07/13/05 Its just my name, LOL. (n/m) - Ash's Z 15:13:17 07/13/05 No common sense or courtesy? Must be ZeeBlak. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 15:23:11 07/13/05 That would be expected (n/m) - ZBlacktt 15:44:13 07/13/05 what a quality vendor tt.net has chosen to associate with. (n/m) - Junxster (NoVA) 15:14:18 07/13/05 Yeah, I went to your old webiste a few days ago and saw that - Speedy1003 (IN) 15:16:17 07/13/05 That does suck. (n/m) - Guapo 15:18:26 07/13/05 1st class A-hole! I was thinking of sending my car down - ironhawk_ca 15:19:35 07/13/05 lets start a boycott to improve their ethics and service (n/m) - atl300zxtt 15:21:27 07/13/05 lets start a boycott in an effort to improve their ethics & - atl300zxtt 15:22:24 07/13/05 start? (n/m) - Guapo 15:24:40 07/13/05 haha...they are close to me so they are convenient - atl300zxtt 15:26:58 07/13/05 convenient or you are lazy? (n/m) - Halo Z 20:08:06 07/13/05 Internet and ethics...think it is a possible combination? (n/m) - Zirvana 15:25:45 07/13/05 hmm... - BradZ (FL) 15:27:44 07/13/05 Re: lets start a boycott in an effort to improve their ethics & - ybnormal70 15:43:50 07/13/05 hi, welcome to 2001. (n/m) - Halo Z 20:12:29 07/13/05 you're a little late to the party. (n/m) - Spee 23:40:21 07/13/05 you've made a wise and economicaly sound decision. (n/m) - Spee 23:42:53 07/13/05 That's messed up. - ssm300z 15:26:09 07/13/05 wow thats pretty messed up (n/m) - ix3 15:27:58 07/13/05 DAMN Dirty (n/m) - stockplayerz (NYC) 15:28:43 07/13/05 They took ".net" too, but ".org" & ".tv" are still available (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 15:29:03 07/13/05 Maybe it was a mistake - SimplyZ(MD) 15:30:01 07/13/05 Wow...that is BS! - TonyD(90Z32TT) 15:31:07 07/13/05 I will be told that it was my fault. - Ash's Z 15:33:37 07/13/05 Not true, it is not your responsibility to register all - 300zx90 16:26:28 07/13/05 They took ".net" too, but ".org" & ".tv" are still available - Barry'z (NJ) 15:32:34 07/13/05 Been through this before.. Call an attorney - kdwest 15:32:38 07/13/05 that's messed up. - rufflez 15:34:18 07/13/05 Hey Andy... - BradZ (FL) 15:56:33 07/13/05 that's pretty crappy of them - komplexZ 15:35:51 07/13/05 Hey Ash, sorry to hear. That really sucks. - zQuikonE 15:37:44 07/13/05 he mentioned Z1 was doing that when he worked there (n/m) - atl300zxtt 15:40:17 07/13/05 Well he said Z1 was doing that to pull in hits. - zQuikonE 15:43:18 07/13/05 Wow, that's low! (n/m) - Zeus 15:38:28 07/13/05 You know.... I have followed this saga since the beginning - Seafordguy 15:39:13 07/13/05 church (n/m) - Speedy1003 (IN) 15:42:52 07/13/05 hi, i'm Adam. (n/m) - Junxster (NoVA) 15:47:20 07/13/05 Rofl (n/m) - TonyD(90Z32TT) 16:10:05 07/13/05 No you haven't. The beginning is when they first fell - Spongerider :) 16:09:52 07/13/05 Hahahaha! - Ash's Z 16:24:53 07/13/05 Wow, that's messed up. (n/m) - F8IZHIS 18:50:11 07/13/05 oof. I usually try to stay away from Forum Drama - longhornz32(Dallas) 15:41:17 07/13/05 2nd (n/m) - JConcepTTZion 15:42:48 07/13/05 3rd..........this was done to me once, I got over it, but, - ScreemZ 16:26:12 07/13/05 Who? Those goold ol' boys? - Marshall 15:42:43 07/13/05 you rule! (n/m) - Halo Z 20:11:42 07/13/05 LMFAO...that's great. (n/m) - GiZmo 21:51:32 07/13/05 looks like z1-sucks.com is available... you should get it... (n/m) - Junxster (NoVA) 15:43:35 07/13/05 That would prove nothing new. I wouldn't waste my time - Ash's Z 16:05:06 07/13/05 Go TEAM. (n/m) - Scotts94z32 15:44:43 07/13/05 There is no "I" in TEAM, Spillner. - Milo (Sport Z Magazine) 15:54:44 07/13/05 there is a ME (n/m) - maxboost83(WA) 16:23:52 07/13/05 there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie.... - dpjax 16:41:21 07/13/05 lol (n/m) - maxboost83(WA) 01:00:31 07/14/05 LMAO...I actually posted that quote and thought no one - Milo (Sport Z Magazine) 09:39:48 07/14/05 just don't say the zed word. - Z U N L 01:25:30 07/15/05 Wow, is right! (n/m) - Arnel@Z32racing.com 15:44:47 07/13/05 2nd (n/m) - maglito 15:53:16 07/13/05 *No comment* - Milo (Sport Z Magazine) 15:52:12 07/13/05 What the hell are you talking about? (n/m) - Kenny 15:55:37 07/13/05 I laughed at "monkey poopies" :) (n/m) - BradZ (FL) 15:58:57 07/13/05 oh good... i thought that was just me. (n/m) - SUPRMANZ 16:03:21 07/13/05 don't worry about it ... Ashley is a girly name anyhow - Luke@tirerack 16:16:24 07/13/05 My folks said they named me that because it was a guys' - TT XTZ 16:34:09 07/13/05 Yep. It used to be a guy's name. I met a woman - Ash's Z 16:36:34 07/13/05 Seriously? She and I have weird parents! - TT XTZ 16:58:24 07/13/05 Gone with the Wind here. My mom really liked that movie. (n/m) - Ash's Z 17:05:54 07/13/05 Ashley Judd doesn't look like a guy - Luke@tirerack 16:38:00 07/13/05 And neither do I. ;-) (n/m) - TT XTZ 16:54:20 07/13/05 Prove it. (n/m) - CrazyGreek 20:00:23 07/13/05 I already have. :-P - TT XTZ 10:28:10 07/14/05 link dosent work. (n/m) - CrazyGreek 21:59:41 07/14/05 yea...looks like a red x to me... (n/m) - j a y 21:10:39 07/13/05 You guys deserve each other .. what a perfect team (n/m) - PLEAZURE in CA (SD) 16:19:25 07/13/05 OMG red letter day! (n/m) - Halo Z 20:14:29 07/13/05 That's illegal, your name is associated with your business. - 300zx90 16:22:02 07/13/05 I'd say it's a little more complicated than that - ZEngineer 16:29:36 07/13/05 No, I owned ashleypowers.com as far back as 1999. - Ash's Z 16:33:17 07/13/05 gotcha (n/m) - ZEngineer 16:35:49 07/13/05 not really ....Microsoft had to pay Mike Rowe - Luke@tirerack 16:30:39 07/13/05 Yep, but that's in the name. (n/m) - Ash's Z 16:35:15 07/13/05 Political backlash, they came across as bullies. - 300zx90 16:39:32 07/13/05 he should mod the xbox and then download games :) (n/m) - dpjax 16:43:28 07/13/05 i'm actually getting to know several Z owners in the area - xZeler8 19:36:15 07/13/05 Re: That's illegal, your name is associated with your busine - SoloCon 04:22:58 07/15/05 That's horrible... - Shift_(ATL) 16:50:30 07/13/05 Perhaps. Maybe not as low as Russell fistfighting with John - Ash's Z 17:19:37 07/13/05 Sp where is John now? (n/m) - PIRANHA 01:48:21 07/14/05 Man, I hadn't heard about that (i've been outta the... - Shift_(ATL) 10:30:31 07/14/05 Another bookmark to add to the dozens. (n/m) - SeedyROM 16:53:04 07/13/05 wow!!!!!! (n/m) - Zski (The Forgotten Z) 17:00:18 07/13/05 That is enough to make me never buy from them. (n/m) - Rule12b 17:51:18 07/13/05 That is just god damn low. (n/m) - ChrisZNA (Sacto, CA) 17:57:57 07/13/05 heh, figures. (n/m) - SaipanZ(MP) 18:01:54 07/13/05 Damn, that was below the belt, Z1's a bunch bastards - ICEMAN PR 18:33:48 07/13/05 crazy, I just noticed that this morning - ZLover4Life 18:34:48 07/13/05 i'm waiting for Z1 to reply to this publicly - PakiHomBoy 18:48:18 07/13/05 I'm sure it is an oversight or clerical error ..just like - Slowninja(GT28RS Inconel Z) 18:55:49 07/13/05 Been watching the online members page; Russell was here - Ash's Z 20:21:18 07/13/05 Wow, that's messed up. (n/m) - F8IZHIS 18:51:14 07/13/05 Re: Heh, I suspected as much. >>>>> - frank1991(running again) 19:05:05 07/13/05 Hmm what goes around comes around - Carlos Ramirez 19:07:52 07/13/05 internet archive to see your old pages. might help legally - Thebarracuda 19:12:55 07/13/05 and Ash gets hit below the belt! not cool. (n/m) - josh 19:14:58 07/13/05 They will never get any of my business again - TARGETZ 19:28:26 07/13/05 lol, damn! that is really dirty..... (n/m) - Rage 19:33:16 07/13/05 I am going to VTD every Post Z1 posts - TARGETZ 19:36:26 07/13/05 Did this post have anything to do with why their posts in - rufflez 19:49:08 07/13/05 Boycott suggestion above - 300zx90 20:03:32 07/13/05 Wow. Just wow. (n/m) - SwatsavTTZ2B 20:15:10 07/13/05 Karma? yes/no/maybe? magic 8 ball say"allsigns point to yes" (n/m) - Halo Z 20:19:02 07/13/05 Does it suck? Yes. Is it also funny? Yes haha (n/m) - Rob.M (Down Shift Magazine) 21:33:49 07/13/05 I am hysterical. Ha Ha. (n/m) - Ash's Z 21:50:12 07/13/05 Oh come on, under different circumstances you know it would - Rob.M (Down Shift Magazine) 22:33:19 07/13/05 I honestly dont find any humor in it though. If it had - Ash's Z 22:38:56 07/13/05 Of course I didnt mean funny under the circumstances - Rob.M (Down Shift Magazine) 10:21:16 07/14/05 rubber mallet (n/m) - JustinZTT-ATL 22:07:31 07/13/05 back in the barn days, that fixed it all. (n/m) - Halo Z 22:09:54 07/13/05 well for some reason i never trusted them,,, this amplifies - fst300zx 20:29:30 07/13/05 I wish I knew the whole story - WAGGZ 20:41:49 07/13/05 yep, saw that last night actually and thought it foul play - jkeyser14 20:52:30 07/13/05 Definitely Karma........ (n/m) - AJ'sGarage(Vegas) 20:57:43 07/13/05 Whoa! Its Jackson... - Rob.M (Down Shift Magazine) 21:35:45 07/13/05 sorry to hear all this - z90z 21:06:42 07/13/05 Michelin and now this... (n/m) - Z_PREPared 22:36:27 07/13/05 well for some reason i never trusted them,,, this amplifies - fst300zx 21:31:28 07/13/05 ***just notice this**** - Zski (The Forgotten Z) 21:38:18 07/13/05 cuz they lack the balls to do so (n/m) - PakiHomBoy 22:28:03 07/13/05 I'm from Z1, what kind of response would I make?? - speedr300z (ATL) 22:34:19 07/13/05 Re: ***NOTICE THIS**** - speedr300z (ATL) 23:31:27 07/13/05 true this should have never made to TT.net - Zski (The Forgotten Z) 23:37:29 07/13/05 no, actually it should. there is a lot more that should be - Halo Z 06:17:17 07/14/05 seconded, i would like to make certain judgements - mousersix (San Antonio) 10:01:32 07/14/05 What would I have said to Russell on the phone? - Ash's Z 00:11:49 07/14/05 i mean i not shit talking about them ..... - Zski (The Forgotten Z) 23:33:18 07/13/05 and how long have people been saying Z1 is straight - genic 22:04:11 07/13/05 I can't believe this hasnt been pruned yet LOL! (n/m) - PIRANHA 00:27:26 07/14/05 To be fair... - dpjax 22:04:46 07/13/05 ok...are you just f-ing stupid...or just f-ing stupid? (n/m) - genic 22:08:29 07/13/05 it's about time the ppl under 3 years on the forum realize - Halo Z 22:13:40 07/13/05 Exactly. - Ash's Z 22:22:37 07/13/05 to be fair... ..mind the sticker on your window... - genic 22:12:29 07/13/05 My bet is with Ockham's Razor: - Ash's Z 22:17:47 07/13/05 And if they didn't have anything to do with it, Russell - Ash's Z 22:35:52 07/13/05 OK - dpjax 23:08:28 07/13/05 Absolutely Amazing. - Zfreak(Dallas) 22:40:52 07/13/05 Ash is a good guy and has done alot to help the community, - Synd 22:45:47 07/13/05 I really don't care to respond, as the business between - Russell@Z1 23:10:11 07/13/05 OK>> - Ash's Z 23:29:01 07/13/05 Gold star for Ash! (n/m) - ChrisZNA (Sacto, CA) 23:39:50 07/13/05 Here is something interesting. You bought it on 6/18/05 - Ash's Z 00:00:50 07/14/05 Well good luck with it.. You DID respond BTW. - Zfreak(Dallas) 23:29:04 07/13/05 Glad I could help bring out a response from Z1 =) (n/m) - Synd 23:59:17 07/13/05 I must also comment that, brushing off TT.net population - Synd 00:09:12 07/14/05 Your response in the first line is so funny. - Spongerider :) 11:47:06 07/14/05 Z1 bookmark *deleted* (n/m) - tsignr 15:08:55 07/14/05 Unbelievable...Serious Case of Ash, Envy (n/m) - Mighty-Znoobie 23:29:20 07/13/05 I think this is gonna get deleted. - Zfreak(Dallas) 23:30:28 07/13/05 sounds about right. That's the Z1 MO down to a tee. (n/m) - Spee 23:37:11 07/13/05 This is just another example of Z1 not knowing how to run - Only1Z 23:57:20 07/13/05 Negative support for ASH - TriniTT 00:35:18 07/14/05 lol (n/m) - Guapo 00:41:13 07/14/05 The only blind and ignorant jackass is you my friend. - SeedyROM 00:50:23 07/14/05 OMG, Its almost worth staying up to see what you'll say next (n/m) - Speedy1003 (IN) 00:52:12 07/14/05 I guess you didn't see Russell's reply? - Ash's Z 00:52:17 07/14/05 The only way to kill Wal Mart is to find the heart (n/m) - Z32Nizzan 01:36:55 07/14/05 i wish i could reach through the computer screen - AxleZTTic 01:47:28 07/14/05 been boycotting Walmart the last few years... thanks. (n/m) - Tu 09:34:31 07/14/05 Russell's reply - summed up --> - Speedy1003 (IN) 01:10:11 07/14/05 Hah... Z1 really is shady. - turtleboy 05:25:26 07/14/05 Wow Z1 sucks (n/m) - Talon585 06:38:00 07/14/05 Solution: Register his Russell's full name .. - MatD 07:12:52 07/14/05 Ha - that would be some funny shiznit ! (n/m) - Slowninja(GT28RS Inconel Z) 13:58:43 07/14/05 Re: Heh, I suspected as much. >>>>> - ussendeav 07:20:31 07/14/05 Re: Heh, I suspected as much. >>>>> - ussendeav 08:00:06 07/14/05 Are they are getting your old email??? (n/m) - EZEZ(300) 10:53:01 07/14/05 Jesus, he also has "ashpowers.com"! - Ash's Z 11:16:52 07/14/05 dont you think you have just lowered yourself - mousersix (San Antonio) 12:58:17 07/14/05 Re: dont you think you have just lowered yourself - eriksu9 13:48:24 07/14/05 It appears to be one of my only options to try and - Ash's Z 14:45:59 07/14/05 That's why I never shop with those guys... - GZed32 13:20:46 07/14/05
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